Obsession: Masterpiece or Mid? | Kinolime Podcast Ep 50

Show Notes

Is Obsession a brilliant horror movie... or does it undermine its own message??

In this episode of the Kinolime Podcast, hosts Danny Murray and Meara Owen-Giffiths debate one of the year's most talked-about films: Obsession. While Danny enjoyed the movie far more than Meara did, both agree that the film raises fascinating questions about storytelling, theme, and character development.

Together, they break down the film's central thesis, whether director Curry Barker successfully delivers on the message he's trying to convey, and how character construction can strengthen or completely undermine a story's themes. Whether you're a filmmaker, screenwriter, film student, or simply love movie analysis, this discussion dives into the storytelling choices that make audiences connect with a film…or leave feeling unsatisfied.

Full Transcript

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What actually would have I think solved most of this film's problems is if bear was just

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uglier and shorter, he was way too hot. You know when they'd like to take the pictures and they

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make them look like Charlie Kirk? Okay, I just the whole time I was like that's just he's just

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Charlie Kirk. Oh my god. If I had thought about that then this would have been the most terrifying

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film I've seen all year.

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We'll be talking about obsession today which I am sure by the time the sketch released you

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have probably seen if you haven't all your friends did and they forgot to invite you I'm so sorry.

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I have Mira with me today. Hey Danny, hello everybody at home. I just wanted to start by saying

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that it's the nicest day of the year here in Ireland it's like high 20s and I'm doing what I

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love which is sitting inside and thinking about movies so what a job I have amazing. Yeah. I also

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hate going outside incredible. We're going to be talking all about obsession. He likes it a lot less

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than I do. I think it's awesome. It's the biggest movie of the year so far in terms of just

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profit margins right? This is a movie that was shot for less than a million dollars. It might

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end up making 150 to 200 million dollars. It's filled with life and just like an injection

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of a kind of new crop of horror filmmakers and Gen Z filmmakers that we're going to be seeing the

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rest of the month right? And we're going to be getting right into it Mira what's your thoughts?

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Let's get into obsession. Yeah absolutely. So I want to preface this by saying that Danny is going

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to deny this but he told me that this is the best horror film of the 2020s. There's no way

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I said that. You were. You're a hilarious. There's no way. When I brought it back up he denied it so

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I think that he came out he had that like post cinema glow about him. It was like he was high on

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the endorphins of it and he was like this is the best. Yeah, you have every see. Yeah, I didn't love

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this movie guys. I'm not going to lie. I thought that it was. I expected to be good. You know,

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I never tried to get my hopes up too high right? But I thought it was going to be good not as great

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as people were maybe suggesting it was. I all respect to to you know Curry Baker great name. I

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respect what he's doing. You know, as a guy in his 20s kind of doing his YouTube stuff and then

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moving over to feature film like it's incredible and you know congratulations to him.

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That being said, yeah, people are going to be mad at me for this but I thought this movie was

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kind of mid and so if Danny you know Danny maybe has come down a little bit from his original point

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about best of the 2020s but I think I'm lower than that as well. So Danny, where are you

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ranking this now? What's your out of 10 kind of score for this as a movie? Yeah, I don't know. I

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mean I would say it's the more I think about it there's a couple fairly glaring holes that

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I think probably stop it from being viewed. At least for me is like a contemporary classic.

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And more I know that Curry Baker, every interview I've seen with him he's he references Aureaster

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and specifically hereditary. I think there's a couple kind of glaring qualities that that

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probably not get down a peg or two from there. But yeah, I mean I largely thought it was like

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an amazing I guess it's not totally a debut. He made things milk and cereal. It's like a 60 minute

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kind of horror flick so it's like technically a feature that you know didn't get wide distribution

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last year like two years ago but no I mean I think it's an incredible debut. It kind of like keeps that

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long line of sketch guys. You know kind of like going into horror with like a great kind of sketch

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premise and like finding a way to turn it into a pretty great film that everyone loves.

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I'm fascinated like what specifically for you kind of like knocked it down to mid like you're

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one of the only people I've heard that I know didn't leave with you know glowing from how much fun

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they had. No you're absolutely right and everybody that I've spoken to about it has loved it.

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So like I recognize that I'm absolutely in like a super super minority on this and you know I don't

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know maybe it's one of those ones in a few years I'll check it out again and my mind will be changed

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but right now I've been extremely frustrated just in case by the way anybody for some reason you

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haven't seen this movie and you're watching this review discussion do go see it you know it's

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absolutely a worthwhile experience and you know seeing it in the cinema. If you're unfamiliar though

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and you're still sticking around for whatever reason the idea is the main guy he's guy called bear

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he's in love with this girl who's like you know friendzoned him she's uninterested he gets this like

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magic stick from from a shop that he breaks and wishes I wish that this girl was in love with

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me more than anybody else in the world and then she is and there are disastrous consequences because

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that's a lot of love that's kind of like your basic kind of synopsis lovely right I found coming

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out of this we are in a era of filmmaking where filmmakers have to be so so didactic and kind of

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really bash you over the head with like this is what I'm doing with this movie this was not one

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of those movies if you look at recent movies right like you look at the substance which like basically

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similarly to this it feels like everybody kind of loves if you look at like sorry to bother you

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which I know is one of your favorite stanny I really I like that movie but like these movies are like

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this is the message you get it in the first 10 minutes and then they beat you with it every frame

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of the film the entire rest of the time if you come out of that like we're in it we're in also

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an era of like dead media literacy but you cannot miss the point of those films because it's in

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every scene every frame you know there's like every frame of painting like every frame is like an

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Instagram um you know like infographic for for these types of movies this was completely opposite

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right where we've got this this kind of this protagonist character in there is an awful person

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Nikki is kind of being puppeted by this like magic demon uh she's not in love with this guy but

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kind of it's a situation where she's being forced to pretend she or not even pretend she's

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got like she's possessed as if she loves this guy um so she's a victim like the entire time

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that's about as far as the country goes it's like wouldn't this be like a real crappy situation

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right and there's I found it so kind of like stilted after the fact there was no like oh

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and you know this was the less than that he learned and uh you know what do you have to sacrifice

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for somebody else's wish or or anything like that I feel like the characters were set up 20 minutes

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in they break the stick uh you know things kick off at that point and like the messaging

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thereafter was like it was bereft of of any kind of like commentary for me after that point uh what

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I found really frustrating was with it what I came out was like what is he trying to say with

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this movie right I was really I was racking my brain which is you know it's pretty small but I was

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trying my best to try and discern some kind of you know thematic message or thematic statement from it

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right um and whenever I bring this discussion up with people I'm like yeah but like after the setup

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like what is it saying you know I get a lot of kind of like defensiveness and I get they're like

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yeah that's the point you right you know that's the point which is like this comment that I hate

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you know that's the point well the point is there is no point is a move point for me like um that's

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we're lacking something there if you're trying to like contrary in me with it I'm like well that's

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who's gonna remember it at the time that it didn't do something I'm not going to certainly um so

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I don't need this to have like a kind of like a moral kind of conundrum and then like uh oh you

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got your come up into the end but I do need it to be kind of like an evolving statement and

[08:28]

evolving kind of thesis on something yeah I found that so so absent and every interview I've seen with

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um Cory Baker there after where I've been like what was his intention with this he does this kind

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of like oh and I really wanted to leave it open for interpretation and I really wanted to kind of

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leave that one up to the audience or whatever but it's so binary for me there is no kind of like

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like if you come out of this and you're like oh bear is a good and unfortunate guy that looks for him

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it's okay like I don't know how to help you if you're like Nikki what a terrible kind of like

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hostage situation she's been put in this is awful like all of her agencies been stripped away

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this is like kidnapping and sexual assault like all in one uh yeah you got the point of the movie

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what is there up for interpretation can you can you help explain to me kind of what I'm missing here

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yeah I mean I think largely my I guess um before I because what you just touched on was my

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my glaring kind of critique about I think what stops this film which again it is clearly resonating with

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again me with like large swaths of people that that go to the movies a lot of people that

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like this film is turning out people that don't go to the movies it's like a lot of the tracking

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data says um but yeah like I guess before I kind of go into that point I will say because what we

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haven't really given any like glaring positives yet like the Nikki performance I'm gonna butcher

[10:02]

the actresses name because again she's pretty much a complete unknown indeed never it I believe

[10:08]

never right yeah like uh again her her performance is like oh this is going to be

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a superstar like you know it is such a complex incredible performance that I think does really

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balance like these kind of tipping scales of this like crazy obsessed demon with like this really

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empathetic again like caged woman who is largely again like emotionally physically uh in like

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psychologically tormented throughout the it's a performance I just I don't really think I've seen

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before um I've heard some people make comparisons to possession which is probably like the closest

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thing I could think of but um yeah I think two-year question what's largely my glaring complaint with

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the film is that the film itself isn't inherently interested in Nikki um I think it's very interested

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in the demon that possesses her um and I again it's not like we have to see it from her perspective

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the entire film is largely rooted in bearous perspective and I think there's a lot you could play

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with with his kind of indecision and him kind of you know playing along with this wish until he

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can't in terms of like um you know his cowardice and just like what makes him like the true villain of

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the film um right but yeah I mean I I think for me largely I would say least for me more of like

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the horror of the film and the commentary be about kind of how crazy she is uh in this body

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then like actually dealing with the the horrors and the lack of indecision from uh again like

[12:07]

they are intimate throughout large swaths the movie and we find out that that's you know she is

[12:13]

not consenting to that uh you know like every time she gets a chance to she's trying to kill herself

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we get this great scene that that did rub me the wrong way in a lot of ways because it was like it

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was such a great moment to kind of uh dig in to like the kind of evil of bear or just like force him

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to to reckon with a decision in a fascinating way when uh the demons asleep and Nikki begs

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you know for him to kill her and he said like you didn't want me in the first place or something

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like why don't you want me which did feel completely underbaked at least for me I'm fascinated to know

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how you felt about that scene uh to me like that is largely where the film kind of lost me from like oh

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this is a pretty searing commentary about you know bodily autonomy and like male cowardice um yeah

[13:12]

I agree with what you're saying I mean for certainly it was a highlight of the film for me because it

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made me feel uneasy in in ways that maybe horror films don't usually which you know I just got to

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be applauded um I do think that you know kind of I keep saying Baker as if this is like complete

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I you know I'm sure that there's things that are lost in the edit and there are you know decisions

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that are not entirely his own maybe you know that I I can't count for but by and large I feel like

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Baker was kind of uninterested in Nikki as a character and more as a conduit for opportunities for

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awkwardness or you know sort and a cheap horror by and large you know I don't I don't really feel like

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um you know she was fleshed out in in in ways that were interesting which you know not everybody

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needs to be but when is about like such a complex kind of situation like this I do feel like when

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you get down to like an interstitial level if you take like a basic concept right and when I say

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basic concept I mean be careful what you wish for like how long has that been a narrative and

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literary device right like we're talking you know Rumpel's still skin like in this year's

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script a screen we've a top three engine which kind of like a Rumpel's still skin historical like

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genie or gin stories and like even going back as far as like a king might as like oh everything

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I want touch terms to gold you know like what could possibly go wrong types of you know like we

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get these um situations uh and they're fun they're always they're always fun to play with right

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but to take something that we've seen like a thousand times shrink it down to like a very kind of

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personal level so it's not everything you know I I want to be the richest guy in the world blah blah

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whatever everything I touch terms ago to shrink it down to like just tiny level make it about like

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basically two characters because everybody be on kind of bear and nicky or really tertiary

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characters that I care very little for um then to give one of them like no kind of agency to the

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point that we're focusing entirely on one character now is kind of entirely static and we don't get

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into the interstitial kind of like really detailed like uh micro stuff right we don't we don't

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get enough play with that and we touch on it I feel like Baker kind of gets almost into it and

[15:22]

then he kind of shirks away a little bit that I think specifically is it is uh again you can make a

[15:29]

film about you know someone's like internal fears or cowardice uh like you can have a protagonist

[15:38]

that like doesn't make decisions if that affects them in a serious like I always think about

[15:45]

I saw the TV glow as a film that is all about a film a character who essentially is killing

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themselves and destroying themselves over not making you know these big decisions if you're

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supposed to make um I largely agree with you like I think that uh again like there is not enough

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investigation into bear not making decisions around nicky like uh you know his best friend is like

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you're kind of taking advantage of her and you know he immediately realizes like oh this

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this isn't her and then the film largely kind of avoids that until and again like uses that

[16:29]

just to kind of ramp up the the crazy theatrics going on around her um I agree I would

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love to see more of of kind of like uh his indecision or his lack of a decision uh I don't know

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either like leave him like racked with guilt or like those lack of decisions like leading

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clearly to her getting worse uh you know it doesn't really seem like his decisions

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I guess uh fuel the story in any way it's funny actually you say about kind of with the best friend

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because you know it's initially he's like there's something weird about this right yeah and he

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is as a change of heart and I really like this moment and this this could have been the whole movie

[17:16]

or at least most of act two for me was um you know he knows some things weird he's like I don't know

[17:22]

how to get out of this situation but then as soon as somebody else says like this is weird why would

[17:26]

she go for a guy like you he becomes very defensive yeah he like withdrawals and he's suddenly like

[17:31]

it's not a problem actually it's fine like it and you know that's interesting there's like uh

[17:35]

diversion in characters a diversion in the choices that he has to make in that scene

[17:40]

I really expected to kind of love it based on on that point I was like I can see the kind of

[17:45]

cascading effects from here on out this is gonna be cool and yeah there was not enough of that

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certainly for me yeah I was just in regards to the actual horror of this right basically at no

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stage do I feel like bear is in any form of danger right she you know Nikki kind of shows up she does

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these kind of like gross out kind of stuff like I'm peeing myself I brought you I took your

[18:08]

dead cat out of like trash or whatever right she's doing these kind of like normal like

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hard like this was supposed to make you feel uneasy stuff I mean it kind of does to a to a degree

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he's never in any danger it's other people around him that are kind of getting in the way

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between like you know mama bear and coob bear that those people are the people in danger right and

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I don't care about those people like really at all Sarah a little bit maybe towards the end

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but even then it was kind of like it it felt so kind of like removed from the core story that I

[18:40]

I didn't feel like there was any peril towards bear specifically and I know we're not supposed to

[18:45]

like the guy but as our conduit as our kind of POV perspective for the story I need to feel some

[18:52]

kind of level of like oh what's gonna happen to him here right do you get any of that at all

[18:58]

yeah I mean the thing I kept I guess on that note when I left the theater thinking about is

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why wasn't our midpoint him breaking up with her it just felt so you know like again he

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there aren't really any moments where he kind of pushes back or actually tries to escape her obsession

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but again like I'm both critiquing the film a lot it again it is like a lightning bolt of fun

[19:31]

your tense pretty much every scene and it is an absolute ball largely because of the performance of

[19:41]

this nicky actress but yeah like I agree I there was so much that I guess was under explored I think

[19:52]

about again he he has trapped this woman into again a psychological torture chamber that

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and like she does now not in control of her body largely like what I found pretty fascinating about

[20:06]

the film in a lot of ways was one um it was maybe the the first film about these kind of like

[20:16]

you know in-cell weird manosphere nice guys actually made by like a 25 year old like hyper

[20:24]

internet tiktok guy which I did find quite fascinating I I did think there was a divergence in

[20:33]

in the tone and in feel of this type of character compared to what we largely see now and like

[20:40]

I don't know one out of every five movies where there's like um there's like less subtleties to

[20:48]

that character um I thought that was nuanced but yeah largely we just didn't get to explore the

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consequences of that behavior in a meaningful way through bear in regards to the kind of in-cell

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kind of point that you're talking about there you know um something I find that they didn't commit to

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there is that this like he's a pretty normal guy until he's within the relationship it's like an

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unrequited like crush um kind of typical of like a high school movie type situation you know

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you're not supposed to immediately be like this guy's a freaking predator right you know he's just

[21:22]

weird and awkward um and it shirks away from actually being like yeah he's creepy he's actually

[21:29]

kind of predatory and how like obsessed with her he is because it inserts these couple of scenes

[21:35]

where it's you know nicky says to him like oh you're the only guy I can talk to about this kind of

[21:39]

stuff or whatever and like you know oh you know you she she kind of makes him seem like he's like a

[21:44]

really great kind of conversation list or somewhere she can like confide in and like we don't see

[21:48]

any of that it almost felt like they kind of retracted the full like weirdness of him by giving

[21:54]

him this in right giving him this in into the relationship um and I feel like if they'd remove that

[22:00]

and she just kind of been like I'm a little bit freaked out by this guy actually I think could have

[22:04]

maybe been stronger um because then it's like a you know the shoes on the other foot type situation

[22:09]

but instead um I yeah I feel like I feel like he wasn't really like and those 11 like normal

[22:18]

normalcy to this unrequited crush um before things kind of take a supernatural turn yeah I mean

[22:27]

I don't know I I guess I would probably disagree a bit in the sense that uh again as someone who

[22:33]

is like five foot three and tall I was like 17 and a half like I do understand um the just sheer

[22:41]

loser dumb of a guy who you know who knows like either that there's no shot this will work out

[22:50]

and well what actually would have I think solved most of this film's problems is if bear was just

[22:55]

uglier and shorter um did you not feel though like he was way too hot you know you've seen this

[23:02]

online though did you did you see not just look like like like the you know when they like take the

[23:07]

pictures and they make them look like Charlie Kirk okay yeah I just the whole time I was like that's

[23:13]

just he's just Charlie Kirk yeah I mean that if I had thought about that then this would have been

[23:19]

the most terrifying film I've seen all year uh but uh yeah like I think like the the quick fixes

[23:27]

for this film truly is just have bear be be ugly and short again he's like teen wolf like like

[23:34]

like are we really supposed to believe that like teen wolf is this uh you know this scared of girls

[23:41]

come on um in this like little small town where there's like you know seemingly five 20 year old

[23:49]

you know 20 something year old man yeah Neil working the same job they all work in the same shop

[23:55]

um yeah okay so look I love the film I I do agree with you largely I I think that

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Nikki's character is largely under explored again like there's a moment I asked my my brother how

[24:10]

he felt about the film and what he sent to me he's like well at least now she'll have something

[24:17]

to write about and I was like oh yeah I forgot that she's like a writer that's like her whole

[24:23]

remember that like yeah she is so largely a direct explored um yeah I would have loved to like

[24:33]

actually you know care about her in some way before um I would have loved bear to be a little

[24:39]

a little short fat guy um I I like what you're saying I think if if bear to run away at the midpoint

[24:46]

and she loves him more than anyone else in the world loves anybody she would stop at nothing

[24:51]

to close that gap and you could be like a prequel to um it follows you know no matter how far

[24:57]

you run like this person's gonna come after you like again this was shot for like I think under a million

[25:02]

dollars you know and like great job or like for what it is like it it works so well but I feel like

[25:07]

kind of to explore this dynamic um yeah kind of being like transit like I've got to get away from

[25:14]

this person it feels like those two locations that we ping pong between um and if he'd been like

[25:19]

on the run and she'd been after him I think that could have been like much more interesting as well um

[25:26]

yeah yeah I mean look uh for like a first true like widely released feature shot for this amount of

[25:34]

money also I believe he started developing the idea like late 2024 so largely for a story that

[25:43]

was developed and financed and produced with a bare bones crew uh from a really young filmmaker

[25:50]

it's phenomenal I'll watch everything Curry Barker does I think um as far as horror debuts go I

[25:57]

can't think of many in the last like decade that are as exciting as this film um and largely like

[26:06]

we got an incredible new actress on the scene from this like okay I really can't think of a

[26:11]

performance that anchor to film this heavily uh that I've probably seen like the 2020 it's like

[26:18]

it is that nuanced and awesome and and really does catapult the story in in incredible ways um

[26:26]

100% but yeah again I think largely um if this movie was to be you know shot again let's have

[26:34]

bear be short and ugly let's have there be a more pronounced midpoint uh where maybe he breaks up

[26:42]

and let's give the nicky character a bit more nuance uh specifically through like the choices

[26:49]

bear is making and enforcing her to stay in this cage is is there anything I'll see you would kind of

[26:54]

add to that and when we kind of have these discussions I like to kind of focus on uh uh you know

[27:01]

story and narrative more than like actual logistical things and execution but um like I'm not

[27:06]

gonna lie that scene where she's watching him in his sleep as spooky as hell right but I was like

[27:13]

why is she wearing this makeup in that scene did you know just you don't just feel like she put on

[27:18]

some makeup to sit in the corner because she didn't look like herself right well I think that

[27:23]

that's part of it is like she's supposed to be kind of like morphing into this demon in the shadows now

[27:27]

but it was just obviously like makeup it was like contouring on her nose to the point that I was like

[27:32]

I've that really took me out of the movie quite significantly because I just I could see the kind of

[27:41]

like the the practicality that's gone into the scene like she's shrouded in darkness there's only

[27:45]

so much doubt you can see it but uh for what should have been like maybe like the creepiest kind of like

[27:52]

uncanny valley like you know playing into the analog horror kind of vibe you know that where

[27:58]

where getting is kind of like obviously kind of becoming fairly mainstream with um you know

[28:03]

came Parsons uh the back room coming out next weekend and stuff but um yeah just the the literal

[28:10]

yeah practicality of seeing like like seeing makeup really took me out of what I should have

[28:15]

been like this bookiest kind of moment. Merit is it a shock or cold? You did like about this

[28:21]

yeah absolutely indian avarette do you you're 100% right indian avarette if that's how you say it I

[28:27]

hope it is uh yeah I can see like this time next year she's like wonder woman or something like that

[28:33]

like I think she goes like immediately kind of to the top of everybody's um you know uh wish list

[28:40]

for there for their you know next casting absolutely yeah like she's instantly in like that

[28:44]

Mikey Madison and Nora like oh just get her for everything real. Right exactly yeah you know I mean

[28:51]

you know God willing she kind of follows Mikey Madison and like turning down like most everything

[28:56]

that's kind of offered to her immediately um yeah I think Mikey Madison like turned down like two

[29:00]

star wars roles like within like a few months which is crazy uh but good for her I guess uh yeah you

[29:07]

know I mean you know definitely like there's strong performances even though like Nick you know

[29:12]

Nikki's kind of got a lot to do um bear is more limited but like he's yeah they managed to pull like a

[29:20]

really great performance out of him in that as well in his like how stupid he is and not gonna how

[29:24]

much we're not supposed to really um you know like the guy um and I did enjoy uh some of the scares

[29:33]

especially kind of in like the you know the third quarter I guess out of it like that was kind of the

[29:38]

the best stretch for me usually you want to you know top load your your act to your two way he was

[29:43]

kind of like the you know the the fun and games and like the the scares and the trailer moments it felt

[29:48]

like they all came quite light in this um yeah I was so stressed out during the car scene with uh

[29:55]

think her name is Sarah I have to go to the go to the back I'm like I'm not doing this I'm not

[30:01]

gonna sit here and watch you know watch her come out of nowhere and like bash her head in so I left

[30:05]

for like two minutes I went to the bathroom I'm okay it should be done by now I was so tense I saw

[30:10]

the move get loan and I came back and they were still talking and I was so and like I was

[30:18]

yeah I wish I had like an apple watch or something so my heart rate would have been so high um yeah

[30:23]

to be fair yeah same that was a great scene and it I felt very similarly with the scene in weapons

[30:28]

where like the woman gets in the car to like snipper hair from behind similarly I was like we're

[30:34]

we're doing great for like tense car scenes this last 12 months in horror movies I guess we really

[30:40]

are we really are um and I'm sure that uh his next movie is too I think he's doing like he's doing

[30:48]

a Texas can saw he's doing he has another film set up with Bloom House and I think Aaron Paul's

[30:54]

leading in it that already shot um I'm excited to see you know like he's clearly a really strong

[31:00]

horror director I'm really excited to see these next few movies that are coming out in the next

[31:03]

year too uh from Curry Barker Curry Baker Curry Barker Curry Baker I think it's Baker right

[31:11]

it's Baker I think the double R in his first name got me but um yeah I'm extremely excited and

[31:18]

I'm just happy that like we're clearly getting you know more young directors that like again

[31:25]

not to get into it yet but like Kane Parsons uh I watch like his influences for backrooms and

[31:32]

they're largely video games like it is just kind of fascinating seeing like a new crop of young

[31:38]

horror filmmakers that uh are just influenced by different mediums like um Curry Baker his

[31:47]

big influences hereditary which came out when he was like 15 or something right uh you know

[31:54]

he's a TikTok guy like if you really look almost every shot in this film I don't know if it was

[32:00]

purposeful or not is is shot almost perfectly to be cropped like everything is centered and every

[32:06]

single shot uh I don't know if that's purposeful but it it's clearly sensibilities that come from

[32:13]

kind of making your way on like a vertical screen uh which is like I can wait to watch this

[32:19]

in like 25 seconds segments like over and over again just as I you know there's a scroll I guess

[32:25]

yeah me too I can't wait to just rip like a hundred obsession youtube shorts while I'm like

[32:29]

watching an actual movie on the screen it's gonna be great and then you go in like you go in the

[32:33]

comments and uh just the comment is like movie name even though it like says it in the description

[32:38]

it's always any cup of movie that's always the exact kind of like back and forth yeah um I

[32:44]

wanted to touch on real quick if anybody of Blumhouse happens to see this can we talk about like

[32:48]

how lame that new Blumhouse intro is where it's like a comic book movie with like here's all our big

[32:52]

hitters by the way do you see that no I didn't see that was that like in the opening role

[32:57]

yeah it's like uh I draw all the characters kind of like we're like pulling back then through like

[33:02]

I don't know I haunted house or whatever all the characters are there like it's a DC project or

[33:06]

something um that blows dude we gotta get rid of that well the good news is Jason Blum is like

[33:11]

he is a guy who is constantly open truly uh to like assessing what works and he's the only studio

[33:20]

I've ever seen that like when a film of his bombs he goes immediately and does like open biopsies

[33:28]

of like okay well maybe we could do this next time and here's why he kind of seems like he rocks

[33:33]

so I'm I'm sure that you know what we'll start we'll start a big uh petition change.org

[33:40]

get the Blumhouse open and crawl back to what it should be uh and while we're at it let's do

[33:45]

another like petition for like no more breaking sticks for magic this year we've done it twice now

[33:51]

what was the other stick break weapons oh no that's last year it's okay well we could get a sketch

[33:58]

comedy guy to break a stick once a year then it's within 12 months it's within a year okay fair enough

[34:05]

yeah I mean look I'm excited for pack rooms I'm excited for upsash it's gonna it's gonna be

[34:11]

the biggest standout hit of the year like especially for the budget it was shot at and again

[34:17]

it like these films are bringing new people into the theater um let's just keep giving I don't know

[34:24]

like 25 26 year old filmmakers like a million bucks to go make 150 uh not Danny though not me

[34:32]

Danny and don't give me oh yeah my influences will not be tick tock it'll be like you know like

[34:39]

19 sixties, Senegalese movies with like seven lines of dialogue no one wants to see that

[34:48]

no heck yeah okay well thanks so much Mira um if you haven't yet go see a session

[34:53]

it's awesome it's a good time the theater will be full and you'll have a blast

[34:58]

we're really looking forward to seeing back rooms and uh chat them up that next week as I say I'm a big

[35:02]

fan of the the series and all that analog hard stuff in general so uh hopefully that's more my

[35:07]

cup of tea um but you know good job to everyone involved in uh in obsession and I'm glad that

[35:15]

uh glad that you liked it Danny heck yeah man okay thanks so much for joining and see y'all later

[35:20]

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[35:23]

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[35:29]

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[35:37]

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